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6th Nov 09, 03:36
WOW you google "Luis Posada Carriles acquittal myth" and you get pages of websites that support it. What a surprise!!!! Funny that your tag is "A lie, if repeated often enough, turns into truth – the only truth." Try this link http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&safe...fc67ffbccfb7cb One more time. HE WAS TRIED AND ACQUITTED THREE TIMES!!!!!!!!!! No amount of Pro-Castro Websites propaganda will ever change that fact. |
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6th Nov 09, 06:26
TRIED WHERE? WHO ACQUITTED HIM? POST SOME EVIDENCE THAT SUPPORTS THIS!
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6th Nov 09, 07:40
How about Racefanstan?
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6th Nov 09, 07:59
You lie whenever you type. You lie...like a Cuban....that is what you are isn't it? You in fact are a propaganda arm for murdering narcoterrorist. Of course this must also be propaganda but note something you reprehensible, shameless mouthpiece; Pointing out that you're lying about things you know full well about is not defending Casto's regime Pointing out you're a liar has nothing to do with supporting---or no---Castro. For those who want another view: http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/1288 Why Luis Posada Carriles Should Face Justice in Venezuela Printer-friendly versionSend to friend August 12th 2005, by Joshua Soren Graae - COHA On October 6, 1976 a bomb on Cubana Airlines Flight 455 between Trinidad and Havana exploded, killing all 73 people on board. Luis Posada Carriles, a 77-year-old anti-Castro Cuban exile and foreign fugitive, is allegedly the mastermind behind the atrocity, an accusation which he has selectively acknowledged. Posada’s curriculum vitae is enough to make many notorious terrorists feel that they are little better than novices. For four decades he has planned, executed or otherwise participated in bombings, assassination attempts and covert insurrections in the service of his extremist causes. In 1985, while being tried in Venezuela for his role in the Cubana bombing, he escaped from prison and went straight to work with paramilitary forces in El Salvador. He also participated in a series of hotel bombings in Havana in 1997, killing an Italian tourist, and, in 2000, he attempted to assassinate Fidel Castro while the Cuban leader was visiting Panama. He was arrested and convicted for the latter crime but was pardoned and released in May of 2005 in an unaccountable move by the outgoing president of Panama, Mireya Moscoso, for which she was fiercely attacked in the Panamanian press. Currently, Posada is held in a federal facility in El Paso, Texas, after being charged with illegally entering the United States. Meanwhile, Venezuela is seeking his extradition. Posada’s presence in the U.S. poses a delicate problem for the White House, which will have to decide between enforcing its zero-tolerance policy against terrorism or appeasing its influential Venezuelan and Cuban-exile constituents in Southern Florida, where many see him as a counter-revolutionary hero. Ironically, Posada is seeking asylum in the U.S., relying on his claims of innocence, his ancient relationship with Florida’s governor Jeb Bush and his employment as a mercenary in the service of the U.S.-backed Contras fighters in El Salvador. A Misinterpreted Legal History The complexities of Venezuelan law have helped to confound press coverage of the Posada case for a number of years. While the majority of media accounts have reported that he was acquitted twice in Venezuelan courts, this version of events does not withstand scrutiny. The distinction is quite important, as the merits of Posada’s asylum request would be bolstered were he able to show the acquittals. Though the details of his court records do prove somewhat elusive, this much is known: Posada was first tried before a military tribunal, which acquitted him of the crime of treason. However, a higher military court found that the lower one lacked jurisdiction and annulled the entire case, which was then handed off to the civil courts. They would have prima facie jurisdiction over Posada, as he was at the time a citizen of Venezuela. Initially, the prosecutors in the civil case declined to try him; their replacements, however, saw fit to bring homicide charges against Posada, and it was during this period that he escaped from prison. Since Venezuela does not reach verdicts on defendants in absentia, the litigation was stalled, while a warrant was issued for his arrest. To Posada’s potential benefit, many have interpreted this lack of a verdict to mean that two Venezuelan courts have found him innocent of terrorism. However, neither of the legal actions against him carried any precedential effect. The military tribunal annulment effectively wiped the slate clean, resetting the entire judicial process and leaving all parties situated as if no legal action had ever occurred. Nor did the initial prosecutors’ failure to act on the case in the civilian courts have any effect. There are several reasons that prosecutors may decline a case, including lack of evidence, bribery, insufficient resources and political motivation. In the final analysis, Posada was in the process of facing prosecution for a major crime at the time when he escaped from Venezuela. Venezuela now wants to exercise its sovereign right to try him, but first must overcome the bias introduced by the press, whose inaccurate reporting may have inadvertently lent Posada an ersatz veil of innocence." It's disgusting that a vocal supporter/propaganda mouthpiece/associate of a terrorist is allowed to spread filth here unrestrained.
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6th Nov 09, 22:52
If you support the Murderous Castro regime in any way I have no sympathy for you.
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7th Nov 09, 02:01
Who exactly has the Castro regime murdered? Can you name a few?
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7th Nov 09, 02:22
Eki you and I fight like cats and dogs.
This started off as a fun thread but somehow has become very nasty and has nothing to do with the original fun premise. I would like the moderators to shut it down. I hope you would support me. Then you and I can get back to our usual wars. 
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7th Nov 09, 02:26
http://www.therealcuba.com/page5.htm Even Michael Moore admits he murdered. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bAeH...layer_embedded BTW One of those murdered by Castro was my Uncle. His crime being a landowner who actually was productive. |
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7th Nov 09, 02:44
Eki made a mistake, he should have asked whether Castro is more murderous than Battista. I suspect there's no comparison.
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7th Nov 09, 03:49
Well that is a fact. If Batista was murderous we wouldn't be having this conversation. He would have done the right thing and executed Castro after the his terrorist attack on the Moncada Barracks. Sadly Batista listen to the Catholic Church and only imprisoned him then realeased him after a few years. |
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7th Nov 09, 04:41
Eki, Look at Amnesty International's statements on Cuba. Look where they place on the oppressive regimes list with Amnesity and the UN. For you to try to defend this is utter stupidity. No wonder Anthony is so anti-communist when he tells us of losing a family member to Castro. I would be too....and when it comes to Cuba I am. Many Canadians go to Cuba, I wont for the reason I don't support dictators or the regimes they build. Of course, you are consistent. Defending thugs and murdererous regimes that are branded this by not just right wing cranks but the UN and Amnesity International. I suspect Eki you would defend Mao given half a chance...
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7th Nov 09, 09:30
Look, this isn't about CASTRO or anyone other dictator, king or whatever. Whether or not anyone here supports Castro is not the question. It is about vop supporting and carousing with a known murdering terrorist thug. It is the fact that people like vop and his murdering terrorist mate think that killing innocent people regardless of where they come from is ok as long as the end justifies the means. (A bit like the King David Hotel bombing imo) Not only that, it can be agrued that the cia was behind a lot of this ars#holes deeds, certainly he was on their payroll, of that there can be no doubt. Declassified documents have shown this to be the case. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4535661.stm
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7th Nov 09, 09:37
Come on vop, I'm waiting......................
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7th Nov 09, 11:19
Sorry about your uncle. Was that recently, or about 50 years ago right after the Murderous Batista regime?
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7th Nov 09, 11:25
Or Batista could have made social reforms to improve the living standard of majority of Cubans, so that Castro would have lost his support and become irrelevant.
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7th Nov 09, 14:49
I already answered the question.
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7th Nov 09, 15:31
Well While I am not a supporter of this guy VOP espouses as some sort of hero, the lengths that people have tried to rationalize Castro's actions are more than offensive on the other side. As for historical context, Batista was no saint to be sure, but Castro basically used Batitita's regime as justification for his taking control, and history has shown Castro's Cuba was in the end less helpful to the Cuban people...
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7th Nov 09, 16:39
In fact you haven't answered the question, nor do I expect you to as you can't prove he was acquitted. And NO I don't support any murderous regime whether it is castro or any other ratbag like mugabe or the military dictatorship in Burma, or the cadres in the prc, as so on ad naseum. I also have no sympathy for people like you and your mate (and murderous ars#holes like the stern gang) that use killing innocent people to make a political point, that goes for suicide bombers as well, or any form of terrorist act. Anyway, your loving support of this cretinous murderous pr1ck is truely dispicable and yet again shows what a sad, lowlife of a person you are...... I hope you and your kind rot in hell for eternity.
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7th Nov 09, 17:13
Not least because of the US sanctions on Cuba and the collapse of the Soviet Union, who were an important supporter and trading partner to Cuba.
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7th Nov 09, 17:55
I guess the gulags full of people killed or tortured for disagreeing with Castro were the fault of the USA? How about ignoring the fact that western Europe and Canada all kept trading with Cuba during the embarago? The fact that Castro's Cuba was/is a dump wouldn't have ANYTHING to do with Socialism as practiced by a hardleft Communist regime? Really????
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